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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby dabunique » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:10 pm

    

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Wow. Just wow. Morgan wisely kept quiet publicly, as did Natalie, but they're also investigating private chats too apparently. This seems like pure revenge towards anyone who dared to speak up against injustice. At least they're capable of "investigating" something for a change?

Michael Hannah is the fucking worst.


what investigation? false accusations? ma'am i can't anymore with how this organization is such a mess


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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:22 pm

dabunique wrote:
itsrowdy801 wrote:Image

Wow. Just wow. Morgan wisely kept quiet publicly, as did Natalie, but they're also investigating private chats too apparently. This seems like pure revenge towards anyone who dared to speak up against injustice. At least they're capable of "investigating" something for a change?

Michael Hannah is the fucking worst.


what investigation? false accusations? ma'am i can't anymore with how this organization is such a mess


I am not following Miss USA for as long as these people are involved in it
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:27 pm

Queen of the Clouds wrote:
dabunique wrote:
itsrowdy801 wrote:Image

Wow. Just wow. Morgan wisely kept quiet publicly, as did Natalie, but they're also investigating private chats too apparently. This seems like pure revenge towards anyone who dared to speak up against injustice. At least they're capable of "investigating" something for a change?

Michael Hannah is the fucking worst.


what investigation? false accusations? ma'am i can't anymore with how this organization is such a mess


I am not following Miss USA for as long as these people are involved in it


I am just beyond shocked and disgusted with everyone in Miss USA leadership. They really need to clean house and get rid of everyone, because they're rotten to the core. I hope they do, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:48 pm

Rumors are saying that Morgan will accept the crown if she is offered it, but they're unsubstantiated at this point and she's yet to make a public statement.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:16 pm

itsrowdy801 wrote:Rumors are saying that Morgan will accept the crown if she is offered it, but they're unsubstantiated at this point and she's yet to make a public statement.


Why do I kinda hope she doesn’t accept it
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby yellowyam1 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:23 pm

Hold on to your nickers universe is now under investigation. I am done with this pageant the fact that they didn’t rid of Paula or crystal they brought the same mess to miss universe. I don’t know who blew the whistle but universe is now apart of this mess. I knew it I knew it
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:26 pm

yellowyam1 wrote:Hold on to your nickers universe is now under investigation. I am done with this pageant the fact that they didn’t rid of Paula or crystal they brought the same mess to miss universe. I don’t know who blew the whistle but universe is now apart of this mess. I knew it I knew it


Where did you see it’s under investigation?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:18 pm

Me whenever someone brings up the topic of Crystle Stewart

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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:44 am

Morgan put Miss USA 2022 in her IG bio but it doesn't look like she's made any real comment nor has the Miss USA IG account rebranded for her.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:51 am

Queen of the Clouds wrote:Morgan put Miss USA 2022 in her IG bio but it doesn't look like she's made any real comment nor has the Miss USA IG account rebranded for her.


That's official enough for me to change the 2023 thread to put her as the outgoing titleholder, but we'll see what happens.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:04 am

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itsrowdy801 wrote:Rumors are saying that Morgan will accept the crown if she is offered it, but they're unsubstantiated at this point and she's yet to make a public statement.


Why do I kinda hope she doesn’t accept it


I hope she does, and hope she gives us a Wendy/Amanda moment in her final walk. That's what I would be tempted to do if I were her. I'd at least rub my nose if they wouldn't let me decimate them in my pre-recorded speech.

But at the end of the day, does it really bring you that much fame, rather than like, going on a reality show? Nobody outside the pageant world knows the name Nana Meriwether, but a lot of people know the names Hannah Brown or Taylor Hale and they didn't even place. It's probably not worth it at all.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:11 am

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itsrowdy801 wrote:Rumors are saying that Morgan will accept the crown if she is offered it, but they're unsubstantiated at this point and she's yet to make a public statement.


Why do I kinda hope she doesn’t accept it


I hope she does, and hope she gives us a Wendy/Amanda moment in her final walk. That's what I would be tempted to do if I were her. I'd at least rub my nose if they wouldn't let me decimate them in my pre-recorded speech.

But at the end of the day, does it really bring you that much fame, rather than like, going on a reality show? Nobody outside the pageant world knows the name Nana Meriwether, but a lot of people know the names Hannah Brown or Taylor Hale and they didn't even place. It's probably not worth it at all.


I would die if Morgan gave us a Wendy/Amanda moment, but I don't think they'd let her put anything too fiery in the pre-recorded speech and they don't let them do live speeches anymore (maybe for exactly this reason?). But your last line is exactly what I'm thinking. Winning Miss USA from the get go is an experience – you reign for a year, you get all the perks a Miss USA is supposed to get, you get to compete at Miss Universe, but to be a replacement Miss USA you don't get Miss Universe, you only get a few months of reign, and after the scandal this year, Miss USA doesn't really get any perks at all, so you don't get any of those either. I don't really see what the point in accepting the title is at this point besides being able to say you're Miss USA, she can probably do everything she'll be able to do as Miss USA with her North Carolina sash, and the only way that'd change is if Crystle comes back which we also don't want.

Now if a new license holder takes over, then it very well may be worth it, but with every day that passes I find that less and less likely.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby dabunique » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:02 pm

Taylor, Miss Florida 2022, was in New Orleans and i think a few more class of 22 were there
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:22 am

Miss Michigan USA 2021 & Big Brother 24 winner Taylor Hale commented on Heather:
https://www.tiktok.com/@thetaylormack/v ... 1263552002
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby dabunique » Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:17 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:Miss Michigan USA 2021 & Big Brother 24 winner Taylor Hale commented on Heather:
https://www.tiktok.com/@thetaylormack/v ... 1263552002


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Postby UNLV2019 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:Miss Michigan USA 2021 & Big Brother 24 winner Taylor Hale commented on Heather:
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Omg Go Taylor!!! You dragged Miss Montana. Carpetbagging is my new favorite word. love Taylor !
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby theblob » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:14 am

ajsy0203 wrote:Miss Michigan USA 2021 & Big Brother 24 winner Taylor Hale commented on Heather:
https://www.tiktok.com/@thetaylormack/v ... 1263552002


So this bitch from Montana started this whole cheating rumor against R’Bonney? What a loser. She lost big time and now she’s rightfully getting dragged left and right. Now that R’Bonney won Miss Universe, this Heather bitch might as well jump in a river. I can’t believe some of y’all fell for her shit.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:54 am

theblob wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:Miss Michigan USA 2021 & Big Brother 24 winner Taylor Hale commented on Heather:
https://www.tiktok.com/@thetaylormack/v ... 1263552002


So this bitch from Montana started this whole cheating rumor against R’Bonney? What a loser. She lost big time and now she’s rightfully getting dragged left and right. Now that R’Bonney won Miss Universe, this Heather bitch might as well jump in a river. I can’t believe some of y’all fell for her shit.


Heather did not "start" the "rumor". There were a lot of girls who came forward, and I don't believe that Heather was the first to speak up - the class decided together that she would be the spokesperson.

Taylor believes that Heather's comments re: the sexual misconduct that she (Taylor) experienced was not Heather's story to tell and believe that she sensationalized it in an inappropriate manner, and claimed ownership of uncovering those allegations, which is absolutely valid. However, that doesn't distract from the fact that these allegations are still very credible, even if Heather did cross a line here.

The sexual misconduct allegations and the favoritism allegations are two separate incidences. It's easy for them to blend together, as they became common knowledge at about the same time, and both conversations do belong in the same breath of discussing the deep-rooted corruption in the Miss USA organization, but it's also crucial that we have those conversations respectfully, and Taylor feels that Heather was speaking out of turn in regard to her experience. That's fair, but it certainly doesn't mean that the favoritism allegations don't continue to be believable - Taylor has said herself that when she went to Reno, she was hearing rumors that R'obbery would win before the pageant, so she's not debunking the favoritism rumors here either.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:18 pm

Interesting update --- Robin Ross Fleming (Florida director for the last two years) is now the Miss America CEO! This is the first state director jumping ship, and possible signs of coming change at Miss America too.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:20 pm

itsrowdy801 wrote:Interesting update --- Robin Ross Fleming (Florida director for the last two years) is now the Miss America CEO! This is the first state director jumping ship, and possible signs of coming change at Miss America too.


Yep, and supposedly she was the state director the most opposed to Crystle and everything that went down at Miss USA these past two years, so I'm not surprised to see her leave. I also wouldn't be shocked if other disgruntled state directors leave soon too, I know Shanna was pissed too. But I really don't want to see some Crystle crony get the Florida license now.

Most interested in what this means for Miss America though. Robin is definitely not putting on a Miss America 2.0 show given how she directed Florida these past two years. Isn't she the only state director that arranged glam shots and a local costume show?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:42 pm

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itsrowdy801 wrote:Interesting update --- Robin Ross Fleming (Florida director for the last two years) is now the Miss America CEO! This is the first state director jumping ship, and possible signs of coming change at Miss America too.


Yep, and supposedly she was the state director the most opposed to Crystle and everything that went down at Miss USA these past two years, so I'm not surprised to see her leave. I also wouldn't be shocked if other disgruntled state directors leave soon too, I know Shanna was pissed too. But I really don't want to see some Crystle crony get the Florida license now.

Most interested in what this means for Miss America though. Robin is definitely not putting on a Miss America 2.0 show given how she directed Florida these past two years. Isn't she the only state director that arranged glam shots and a local costume show?


Watch Miss America actually become great from now on as Miss USA continues to slide downhill.

And now that you mention it, a Crystle crony taking over Florida seems extremely likely. I don’t think this is the end of directors leaving if Crystle stays. All state directors seem pissed to varying degrees but Robin and Shanna were the most vocal.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:05 am

Will R'Bonney crown Morgan in front of Anne, Amy & Paula in New York? Will there be a new Miss USA winner's sash from The Sash Company since R'Bonney will keep her existing Miss USA winner's sash from SashMe and Mouawad's replica tiara where she was crowned as Miss USA 2022?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:57 pm

I guess it's safe to say the Results by the Independent Firm will never be released since the Stratagem all along was to crown R'obbery to push the Cheating and Sexual Scandals below the rug. Guess a Witch Hunt now follows to those who "Snitched" the Miss USA Mafia.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:21 pm

According to our favorite source Raven:

∙ Miss Brand (Crystle's company) is STILL under investigation by the MUO. Maybe they will be cleared or maybe they will be fired, we don't know.
∙ Morgan will reign as Miss USA under the MUO, but I expect her reign will look like what R'Bonney's looked like and she won't do anything of note.
∙ She keeps alluding to these "zebra" people who may be taking over Miss USA from Miss Brand, but I have no idea who that's referring to? Any guesses?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby itsrowdy801 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:39 pm

Queen of the Clouds wrote:According to our favorite source Raven:

∙ Miss Brand (Crystle's company) is STILL under investigation by the MUO. Maybe they will be cleared or maybe they will be fired, we don't know.
∙ Morgan will reign as Miss USA under the MUO, but I expect her reign will look like what R'Bonney's looked like and she won't do anything of note.
∙ She keeps alluding to these "zebra" people who may be taking over Miss USA from Miss Brand, but I have no idea who that's referring to? Any guesses?


No clue what she means by zebra people lol. The only thing I can think of, from watching a lot of Grey's Anatomy, is the old medical adage "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras" - meaning it's probably the most likely outcome rather than the wild speculation we've been doing. I'm not sure how that would apply in this situation, and what the most likely outcome is exactly, but I guess we'll wait and see.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Thomas876 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:43 pm

At the same time as Crystle, I really hope that Paula and Amy will be fired by Anne (if that's possible), the sight of these two has become totally unbearable for me.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:17 pm

Nana was officially crowned as Miss USA 2012 three weeks after Olivia Culpo's win at Miss Universe 2012. So Morgan's coronation as Miss USA 2022 is around the corner after R'Bonney's media week is finished?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:18 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:Nana was officially crowned as Miss USA 2012 three weeks after Olivia Culpo's win at Miss Universe 2012. So Morgan's coronation as Miss USA 2022 is around the corner after R'Bonney's media week is finished?


Olivia/Nana were in Trump era. R'Bonney/Morgan will be in Crystle era (assuming she isn't fired). We can't make comparisons between different eras, they do so many things differently now from what Trump did. We don't even 100% know Morgan will be crowned Miss USA yet.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:22 pm

itsrowdy801 wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:According to our favorite source Raven:

∙ Miss Brand (Crystle's company) is STILL under investigation by the MUO. Maybe they will be cleared or maybe they will be fired, we don't know.
∙ Morgan will reign as Miss USA under the MUO, but I expect her reign will look like what R'Bonney's looked like and she won't do anything of note.
∙ She keeps alluding to these "zebra" people who may be taking over Miss USA from Miss Brand, but I have no idea who that's referring to? Any guesses?


No clue what she means by zebra people lol. The only thing I can think of, from watching a lot of Grey's Anatomy, is the old medical adage "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras" - meaning it's probably the most likely outcome rather than the wild speculation we've been doing. I'm not sure how that would apply in this situation, and what the most likely outcome is exactly, but I guess we'll wait and see.


Lol I thought she called them zebras because their names sounded/looked like zebra. I feel like I remember her making a comment about not knowing how to spell their name. Maybe you're onto something but I don't know if Raven is that metaphorical lol.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS USA 2022 // NORTH CAROLINA IS MISS USA 2022

Postby Mariana Erwin » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:18 am

ajsy0203 wrote:Nana was officially crowned as Miss USA 2012 three weeks after Olivia Culpo's win at Miss Universe 2012. So Morgan's coronation as Miss USA 2022 is around the corner after R'Bonney's media week is finished?
That is somehow likely, although technically Morgan is already the reigning Miss USA now, per the protocol that has always been in place since the 1960s (it wasn't in place when Miriam Stevenson, Carol Morris, and Linda Bement won Miss Universe). That possibility, though, is somehow still 50-50 due to Miss Brand's suspension.
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